Will Robots Ever Replace Teachers?

Gerry: [00:00:00] Somebody in the hallway needed it because the kid was hurt, hurt their leg, and so we was like going. Do a fake little wheelchair thing and just roll in the chair and my chair broke. Then

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Hey, teacher besties. Welcome to How to Survive the Classroom. I am Andrew Fork.

Gerry: I'm [00:01:00] Gerry Potoka 

Andrea: And Gerry, you just finished a comedy festival, didn't you? 

Gerry: I did. I was, uh, working with the Raleigh Comedy Festival that we had in Raleigh over the weekend. 

Andrea: Now, did you perform. 

Gerry: I did. So I hosted for a Logan Gunselman and then performed on a showcase at a wine bar in downtown Raleigh.

It, it was great. All the shows were fun packed out. I think they said we had over a thousand people over three days. 

Andrea: Nice. That's awesome. So how did, I've never done a comedy like competition or festival. Is it like you get awarded if you're the funniest or is it a competition at all? Or is it just like vibes?

Gerry: So some, some do it differently. This one is not a contest. This one is you do, we have headliners, um, that perform at some of the different venues that the festival runs through. And some of the featured comics perform on the lineup with the headliners, or they have different festival showcases where it's just [00:02:00] six to eight different comics on the showcase.

Um, some contest, some, uh, festivals. They do a contest. Some have a contest portion, others just to showcase. It's really just a big networking thing. Oh, I gotcha. For comics, um, from different scenes. Like we had people from dc, from New York, from Minneapolis, we had people from all over, um, nice. Coming to do this festival, so that's awesome.

It was a lot of fun. Um, lot of good networking. They had different like industry seminars, like how to. I kind of know when you're financially able to go full time. Um, what different clubs and different bookers look for for when they're doing booking. They had free headshot, things like that. 

Andrea: Oh, that's super cool.

Now did you run into any, like, students, former students, parents, anything like that? 

Gerry: Not that I'm aware of. Not that I know of. 

Andrea: You're gonna find out in a couple days, probably have someone be like, my mom saw you. 

Gerry: No, I think, I think I'm good. I think, I think, I [00:03:00] think I dodged it. I hope I dodged it. 

Andrea: Um, okay, so I, I, I need to know if you've seen in the news that, um, the first lady came out with a robot and kind of pitched that teachers could potentially be take I, I wouldn't say that she said, I don't think she directly said that.

Robots need to replace teachers. But that's very been very much the discussion. Have you seen any of this? 

Gerry: I, no, I haven't heard any of this. This is the first time I hear about it. No, I had no idea this was a thing. 

Andrea: Oh my gosh. Okay. So let me, let me pull up a news article because I feel like I need to learn my lesson a little bit.

Um, but basically millennia Trump came out and Lan. That's her name. Melania. Melania. Is it? I don't know, man. 

Gerry: I think, I think so. 

Andrea: I, I, I defer to you. I don't know. Couldn't tell you. Um, but she, [00:04:00] she, 

Gerry: they, old movie about her. Nobody saw. 

Andrea: Aw. RIP. It'd be 

Gerry: like that. 

Andrea: Yeah, it does. All right. With robot. Here we go guys.

This is on the ground reporting that we're getting here. Google. Um, yeah. March 25th, first lady. Melania, I said it right that time. I think Trump introduce AI powered humanoid robot, so it's like a creepy, faceless robot. Um, and introduced it at the White House fostering the Future Together Global Coalition Summit.

So it says it's a robot that's designed for education and it basically has AI powered tutoring to aid children's education and support the future of technology. So not. Replacing necessarily teachers, but a lot of like teachers unions and stuff like that. Immediately were like, no, no, we're not going down this road.

Um, I am, my very first thought was [00:05:00] the robot we talked about, about Philadelphia that got like beat to pieces and scrapped for parts. Yeah, and I have like, that was my very first thought is like, we can't even keep a Chromebook working in these classrooms, nor can we keep them charged. Do we legitimately think that students could basically be supervised by a computer program effectively and not like, and taught effectively by a robot?

What's your thoughts on that, Gerry? 

Gerry: We had kids, what was it? They were sticking in the power outlets about a year ago. 

Andrea: Paperclips, right? Was it paperclips? They were taking paper clips into their, yeah, and like paperclips, I think, into the charging ports of their phones and making their phones blow up.

Gerry: That's it. It was stuff like that. And they, what do they think's gonna happen to a robot teacher? 

Andrea: Like 

Gerry: what they gonna do when the pat battery runs out? I mean, we're humans in, our batteries are running out in the classrooms. What are they gonna do when the battery runs [00:06:00] out on a robot teacher? Yeah. In the middle of class?

No, those kids are gonna be in there trying to make it vape. What? Like what are we doing? 

Andrea: No, literally, I, I, when I saw that, I just was like, immediately there is such a clear misunderstanding of a teacher's job. If you think you can just put a human shaped computer with an AI powered like processor in it to do teaching like that is so.

So stupid because it's like you guys don't actually understand that so much of our job is classroom management, and I would love to see a robot try and manage a classroom. 

Gerry: No. To play devil's advocate, 

Andrea: I'm ready 

Gerry: if that robot can shoot lasers, outs, eyes, them kids gonna be them kids. Kids going pop in. All right.

Yeah. You know what I think, I think, I think we're gonna think we're gonna listen to this one. 

Andrea: I mean, maybe not lasers, but maybe some like light. Electrical shock perhaps. You know, like if someone 

Gerry: doesn't, oh, I'm thinking about hitting 'em. I'm just thinking like [00:07:00] if you, if if you like laser a hole through the desk or something, they'll be like, all right.

Yeah. You know what? I think, I think I'm locked in now. Like I think if you had some laser eyes or something, you could just jump sat right next to 'em. Nah. 

Andrea: I think that's the, like the exact opposite of Maslow's hierarchy of needs where like the base level is that they can't learn unless they feel safe.

And you're saying, let's go the other way. Let's make sure they never feel safe. And so if they're in fight or flight the whole time, they're gonna be locked in. 

Gerry: But they won't be in fight or flight the whole time. 

They'll, 

Andrea: no, 

Gerry: I'm just saying it, I don't know what the disconnect is, Andrew. I'm just saying if a robot had lasers.

The kids knew that they'd probably be like, alright, like we're, we're not gonna just disrespect this laser dyed robot. 

Andrea: That's, 

Gerry: I think that that's a bold statement. Like, if I had a robot and it had lasers in inside, I'm gonna do whatever that robot says. I'm like, I ain't messing with, I don't know what it does.

Yeah. [00:08:00] 

Andrea: I mean, I guess potentially if they thought it had some sort of great powers. I mean, I'm very polite to chat GPT because I'm like, listen, when the robots come for us, I want them to be like, you know what? She was a little neurotic. She definitely doesn't know how to do her taxes, but she, she always said, thanks.

So I know we're not supposed to do that. We're not supposed to say thank you. Thank you 

Theme: Chad. GPT. 

Andrea: Listen, when the robot overlords come and you, 

Gerry: if that's a real thing, I'm cooked because I've, I've said some. Some out pocket stuff to my Alexa. I, I've, I've blessed that. Alexa out. 

Andrea: Uh, so, okay, so actually that makes me think of a movie I just recently saw, and it is kind of related to what we talked about with like very silly movies that you don't always appreciate appropriately.

Um, but there is a new movie called, um, Fack 

Gerry: Fack Hall. 

Andrea: Yes. Fack Hall. Have you seen it? 

Gerry: No, I [00:09:00] heard of it. 

Andrea: It's so silly and I love it so much because it's got 

Gerry: Jimmy Cars in it, right? 

Andrea: Yes. One of my, my favorite comedians is in it. Um, he plays a very small part in it, but it's so good and it's written so funny.

And one of the, um, like the people who work in the, the fancy manor house, um, his name is, uh. Siri, I think, and there then like he like kind of hovers on the corner of things and like, do you think he's always listening to us? It's, it's very funny, but that made me think of it because I do not have a Siri or I don't, I don't have Siri enabled on my computer or on my phone and I don't have like an Alexa or any of that kind of stuff because I think they are listening to me enough.

I'm not trying to add more material for them to use to listen to me into my house. 

Gerry: What do you think's gonna happen? 

Andrea: I don't know, man. Like, I just don't like the thought of it, you know, like 

Gerry: you're a chicken. 

Andrea: I, I 

Gerry: you, you're a [00:10:00] whats? Wait, you worried about that? Bet Bigger 

Andrea: your 

Gerry: problems. Bet. 

Andrea: I bet you accept all cookies too on every website you've ever been to, huh?

Gerry: Nah, not every time. 'cause I, I think that's weird. I'm like, well, I gotta do is every time, like, and, and here's the thing. It says, do you give it permission? Use like the unnecessary one. It's essentially saying like, Hey, we're doing it either way. It's kind of like when you ever download an app on your phone, it says you give this app permission to track what you do.

So it can give ads more beneficial to you. 

Andrea: Yeah. 

Gerry: I always click note by, no, they're doing it anyways because 

Andrea: it's like, but here's the thing is it doesn't say no. It says ask app not to track. Exactly. That's not the same thing as saying no. Yeah, no, that's saying please like. It's absolutely unhinged. Um, okay, going back to robot teacher scenario, also playing a little bit of devil's advocate, what do you think a robot teacher could do?

[00:11:00] Well, 

Gerry: they, there ain't, they ain't never gonna plop at their desk and be like, I'm too tired to get up and go roam the room. 

Andrea: Yeah, 

Gerry: but I sit at my desk sometimes. It's like, all right, whatever they was working on is what they're working on. Because I'm not getting back up until I gotta, 

Andrea: yeah. I mean, honestly though, that I feel like the, the endless energy, I mean, hypothetically, I guess maybe they would run out of power, but I'm sure, you know, I guess would charge overnight.

I don't know. 

Gerry: Yeah. 

Andrea: Like, 

Gerry: like what happened to you? Forget to put your teacher on the charger before you leave for the day. 

Andrea: It just, it just crashes out. 

Gerry: I think this is a bit, 

Andrea: you think it's a bit. I 

Gerry: think I'm right bit about this. You want it? You gonna, you wanna do something of this? 

Andrea: No, go for it. Go for 

Gerry: it.

Yeah. I'm, I, I, I, this is a bit, come see me. Just stand up comedy and hear me talk about the robot teachers. I think this is like bringing me joy. I, I hope I get one. It's like a co-teacher. 

Andrea: Mm. Yeah. I 

Gerry: I bet you they'd break up fights really well. 

Andrea: Would they though, or would kids 

Gerry: start fighting? 

Andrea: If 

Gerry: I'm a kid and [00:12:00] I'm fighting, if a robot comes and puts his hand on my chest, I'm like, you've got it, big dog.

I'm done. 

Andrea: I'm trying to think if there's anything else an AI robot could potentially do. I feel like, here's the thing, I feel like I would love to have an AI robot handle difficult parent interactions because it would, it would be like from the parent side, it would be like on a phone tree when you're trying to get to a representative or something and you're like, representative, oh, like you suck.

And it's just like we're sorry. We can't understand you, but it would be like the honor, repeat, and they would tire themselves out by the time they got to like a real person, or they'd be like really crashing out by the time they got to a real person. But that would be great. I feel like that would be, I'm thinking 

Gerry: grades.

Andrea: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, because AI would, sick can, like AI can already kind of grade essays from what I'm hearing from some of my friends. Of course, most of these essays are also written by ai, so I [00:13:00] feel like we're all just. Kind of walking in circles with that one, but 

Gerry: Sure. 

Andrea: Whatcha gonna do? I mean, do you use AI to grade?

Gerry: No. 

Andrea: I am trying to think of a time I've actually used that. I think 

Gerry: that's harder, I think, to tell the AI what it is I'm looking for. 

Andrea: Yeah. 

Gerry: And then double check it. I think that takes more time. Yeah. I mean, most of the time, like I'm not, like, my assignments aren't like, they're not like essays or things like that.

I can do it. Pretty quick. My, my biggest grading holdup is just sitting down to grade and making myself doing it. And 'cause time gets away from me so fast. I'm so bad at it. I'll be like, oh crap, it's been a minute. I need to grade these things. 

Theme: Yeah. 

Gerry: But once I'm doing it, it's like, yeah, it only takes me a few seconds.

I know what I'm looking for. Yeah. And we're, and we're good. I can move on. And I think trying to train the AI to grade for me would just take more time. Now, now [00:14:00] AI may, may or may not assist me in coming up with set assignments 

Andrea: correct as as it should. AI may 

Gerry: work with me. 

Andrea: Yes, but I, I, I have friends who like, they just put the rubric in for an essay or writing prompt, and then it'll spit out what AI thinks, and then they'll have like a couple of responses and then they'll edit 'em a little bit and, and give that back, which I think can, can be really helpful.

Especially like at a school like where I last taught, where I had 200 students, I saw a day if I'm trying to give writing. I mean even that plugging in, like going through the effort, copying and pasting that into an AI thing. Getting the feedback, doing all that. You're talking two minutes a student. So if you just spent two minutes a student providing feedback on something, then you're talking 400 minutes just for one assignment, which is one of those things that I feel like a lot of people 

Gerry: that's 

Andrea: like, don't, don't even fathom the amount of time it would take if you wanted to provide actual feedback for every single thing you do, for every single student.

It's insane. 

Gerry: That's like seven hours. 

Andrea: I [00:15:00] know. It's a lot. 

Gerry: It's a lot. You know what? Maybe we should let robots take it. Take this one 

Andrea: on second thought. 

Gerry: Maybe. You know what? Yeah, yeah. We'll show them you robots. Yeah. You thought you had it on locks? No. Have fun. No. So you see, you see what you have to do. When someone says such and such left their underwear in your class, you see how a robot handles that?

Andrea: I actually would love to see how a robot handled that. I, maybe that should be a, a segment is like, we'll give a scenario. To chat GBT and be like, Hey, chat. If you were in a robot teacher body, how would you handle this situation? I mean, these kids? And just make it more and more chaotic. Mean 

Gerry: that would, that'd be funny.

Let's put stuff into the chat and say, Hey, chat GBT, how would you handle this? These kids are gonna try and vape out of the robot. 

Andrea: Yeah, for sure. All right, so if you were a robot teacher in a classroom in America, and come on the 

Gerry: podcast, 

Andrea: a student. [00:16:00] And a student You wanna interview 

Gerry: AI robot? 

Andrea: I, no, I'm asking ai.

I'm asking Chad GBT right now. This is happening. Oh, okay. Um, and a student punched another student and flipped a desk. What would you do? Very. Okay. Aw. I would follow both school safety protocols and legal ethical guidelines. Ensure immediate safety. I would verbally intervene. Stop that. Behavior is unsafe.

Position myself at a safe distance, not physically restraining unless explicitly trained or allowed using a clear firm tone to deescalate. Call for support. Separate and stabilize. What are they gonna do? They're gonna put hands on a kid. Um, direct the other students, everyone move to the hallway. Now. Keep the aggressive student in a monitored but con, non-confrontational space.

Deescalate the aggressor using short, neutral phrases. I'm here to help. Take a breath. We can figure this out. This is creeping me out so much. [00:17:00] Document everything. Record the time, actions, statements, witnesses, um, and then like aftercare. Check on the student who was hurt, reset the classroom environment, facilitate a restorative conversation.

Can you imagine a restorative circle with a fricking robot? 

Gerry: This 

Andrea: is just 

Gerry: public relations. 

Andrea: Yeah, 

Gerry: this is what it has to say. Ugh. 

Andrea: What, 

Gerry: what was the thing he said Would say if the, if when the fight started, 

Andrea: um, 

Gerry: stop, the behavior you're doing is unsafe. 

Andrea: Stop that behavior is unsafe as they flip a desk and punch someone.

Gerry: Yeah. What like, I, I, I feel like then they would both turn and face me and beep me up for saying something Korney like 

Andrea: that. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. So I mean, there we go. Now we at least know how chat, if chat was in there. Would handle hypothetically the situation. I wanna know how they're gonna physically restrain somebody.

I would love to know tasers, lasers, 

Gerry: they're robots. They're probably gonna pick them up and hold them there. 

Andrea: I mean, [00:18:00] probably. Yeah, I feel like I need to go rewatch iRobot. But um, on that note, we are gonna take a quick break and when we get back we have some fan questions, so we will be right back.

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Welcome back. So in the questions we got, um, the question of, if you could have one thing that would instantly make teaching better, what would you choose? 

Gerry: Arrays.

Andrea: But honestly, like, like we say, it. And so I feel like people think that we're just kidding, but there are like, I can't remember the statistics, but there's a crazy [00:19:00] high percentage of teachers that work other jobs just to afford life. And if they actually got paid a livable wage, they wouldn't have to do that.

And I, I, I agree. I think that, and aside from that, the class size issue, um, I work in a district right now where the class sizes are much smaller. Um. I mean, we have some of the classes there are between like 14 and 25 in most of the classrooms I'm in right now. And the, the teachers in that district, a lot of 'em have been there for 20 years.

And I don't think that's a coincidence versus the district that I was at before, where you may have one or two teachers that have been there for that long, but most of them burn out very quickly just because you simply cannot survive teaching 200 students a day and giving all that feedback. It's just, it's, it's too much.

So yeah, money. And small class sizes, I feel like is the way, 

Gerry: maybe like, like cooler stuff. 

Andrea: What kind of cooler [00:20:00] stuff? 

Gerry: Like, lemme get an iPad. 

Andrea: You don't have iPads? 

Gerry: No. 

Andrea: Oh, okay. I didn't know you were in that scenario. I will say we, I got an iPad at the big school with the very large class sizes, 

Gerry: but like a good iPad.

I 

Andrea: mean, it was at the time, it was like we got COVID money, so it was like pandemic money and so they had a little extra, and so they got all the teacher's iPads, but I didn't actually use it ever. Like there was never really a reason. 

Gerry: But see, 

Andrea: to 

Gerry: use it, I'd take it home and watch Netflix on it. 

Andrea: I don't think that's what you're supposed to use it for, 

Gerry: or like read Kindle.

I've been reading comic books on my iPad and it's just an old iPad. 

Andrea: Interesting. 

Gerry: I was thinking it'd be cool, they gave me an iPad, a little Apple pencil so I could draw on my iPad. 

Andrea: Mm. 

Gerry: I mean like shoes. I mean you walkin shoes. Since y'all want me walking around the classroom so much, gimme some walkin shoe money.

Andrea: Just gimme 

Gerry: shoes. Shoes, gimme better stuff. Yes. Gimme a stipend for stuff. 

Andrea: Stipend for stuff, yeah. Smaller class sizes and money, I think. 

Yeah, 

Gerry: think 

Andrea: that's fair. I think [00:21:00] that's probably fair. And maybe like 

Gerry: K your lunch a couple times a week. I 

Andrea: would be good. My, uh, so Steven actually worked at, uh, Qualcomm, which is a communications company, and it was like right after he got outta the Marine Corps and they had catered lunches every single day and they had a massage therapist that would come around and give you like massages, what you sat in your office chair.

They had an ergonomics person who would come over and make sure your, like your actual office chair was correct. It was crazy. 

Gerry: Uh, I was about to ask what ergonomics was, but I used context clues. 

Andrea: Look at you. So proud of you. 

Gerry: That's great. Damn, A massage person. Add that to the list. 

Andrea: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that would be amazing.

Gerry: A new chair would be nice, like if they would redo the chairs every so often. 

Andrea: Uhhuh, 

Gerry: because my good chair broke and not because I, I leaned back. I didn't lean back a break. I could lean back in that chair and just do like my feet and leg, hands and legs in the air, and it was good. It broke because I picked it up to lift it over my desk.

Somebody in the hallway needed it because the [00:22:00] kid was hurt, hurt their leg. And so we was like gonna do a fake little wheelchair thing and just roll in the chair and my chair broke. Then 

Andrea: brutal. 

Gerry: Now I don't have a good chair anymore. 

Andrea: I've not had a chair break on me, but I have had a situation where my leg was tucked under me and I tried to stand up really quickly right after getting the attention of the class and my leg got caught and I absolutely fell.

Like, I was like, oh, let me just, and I like collapsed over. Um, it was so embarrassing because I had just gotten the attention of the entire class and they all saw me just. Eat on the ground. The ground 

Gerry: I had never fell. I've sat down before, like just in the middle of the floor. 

Andrea: Why? Just 

Gerry: I'm over it. I, I, oh.

Anytime like they start asking me too many questions, I lean up against the wall and I slide down, sit on the floor until they get quiet. 

Andrea: Just crash out. 

Gerry: Yeah. I've left the room before and just been like, I'll be back when you're all done talking. 

Andrea: I've done that to me. I've, I have gotten so overwhelmed.

I've straight up, walked out and just stood in the hallway for a second. And had to take a couple big breaths because I was like, I'm, yeah, I cannot, I cannot. Um, [00:23:00] okay, so I have a hill. I'm gonna die on this time. Um, I don't know if you have one today, but I, you know, I 

Gerry: don't, I'm 

Andrea: feeling strongly, and this is partially because the state of Indiana just came out with this policy that if you have your bachelor's degree in, in any subject, you only need to take.

Nine credits in order to become a fully licensed teacher. That is three classes. Um, and obviously I feel some type of way about that. That's insane. Um, but the hill I'm gonna die on today is that subject matter expertise is not teaching expertise. It's not the same thing. 

Gerry: No. 

Andrea: And we are doing a massive disservice to students in.

Like K 12 systems and in college systems by pretending that being a master of your subject or having subject matter knowledge means that you know how to communicate it to another [00:24:00] person. It does not because it's got me all kinds of heated right now because they're basically like, Hey, you got a degree in, I don't know, biology, and now you wanna teach?

Okay, great. You can start teaching tomorrow and then you take these three classes. Then you're good and like I am. I am the person who's going to be teaching these three classes, and I'm already stressed for my students because they're being set up for failure so, so bad. 

Gerry: That goes back to the AI teacher thing.

It's like, yeah, AI can probably teach me some stuff about like US history or whatnot. What you gonna do when, when a kid starts crawling under desks and biting people on their cal muscle? Well, how you gonna handle that big dog? 

Andrea: Exactly. 

Gerry: Not exactly. I don't care if you know what the mitochondria is. What you going do when a kid picks a pee corner and just pisses in your room every day?

Like, what you gonna do about that? 

Andrea: [00:25:00] Exactly. Exactly. Because, 

Gerry: and what you gonna do about that Inspector Gadget, what you, and like, 

Andrea: whether it's a robot or someone who's never actually been trained or prepared in any way to handle these kind of behaviors. 

Gerry: Oh, I got a question. 

Andrea: Oh gosh. 

Gerry: Would you rather have, uh, teacher who just knows totally untrained or the robot thing, which one would you try for a day?

Somebody has no idea what they're doing, but they, they can't just. Get busy work. They have to teach the class or the robot thing. 

Andrea: Okay. I, I would, um, I, I feel like it would depend a lot on what the class was like, like what the students were like. Because there are some classes, like if it's an AP language class robot, the robot's gonna crush it.

That's gonna be fine. Because, or by the way, I feel like university professors could be replaced by robots a lot quicker than. Like a K 12 instructor, because if you are, like, you're paying to be there. So if you don't [00:26:00] wanna learn, then that's like, you don't have to, you don't have to be there. You're paying to be here.

So learn or don't like, you're gonna have motivated learners in a college system versus K 12 where you're legally like kids are required to be there. So I feel like if I'm, if I'm talking my classes right now, put the robot in like. Go, robot go. But if it's like a K12 class of any kind, I would say a human, as long as that human didn't have a criminal record.

Like think about your classes right now that you're teaching robot or untested random person off the street. 

Gerry: Yeah. I feel like you putting a person off the street in there, that's not me, that they gonna try some, regardless of that person knows what they're doing or not. I'd rather just see what happens with the robot and you let that robot have a have, have a, have a chance.

Things like, Hey man, see, see if that robot can come up with something I can't come up with. See if that cl robot knows how the clap wants. Like, you know. 

Andrea: [00:27:00] So it's like also your intellectual cur curiosity of what would happen to the robot. 

Gerry: Yeah. Kind of like I, I have a pretty good grip on what's gonna happen to the adults.

I kind of wanna see what happens with the robot. We ain't tried that one yet. We ain't tested that hypothesis. 

Andrea: Wow. I love that. Yeah. That's great. Um, okay. Uh, do you have any shows coming up in like late April? Because this actually, uh, this airs on four 20, my friend. Not that we would ever celebrate something like that, but it is April 20th when this episode is airing.

So comes April 

Gerry: 20th? 

Andrea: Yes, sir. So 

Gerry: that means tomorrow, so I may a year round school. Every nine weeks we get three off. This comes out the, so by the date this comes out, the next day is my first day with students in April. 

Andrea: Oh my gosh. 

Gerry: I've been, I'm off. That's exciting. I'm off for a minute. Wow. And then, uh, Thursday, Friday, I will be in Columbus, Ohio, opening for Joe Dombrowski, I think only tickets for the late show Friday, which is [00:28:00] nine.

Nine 30. Those are the only ones available. Thursday, one show sold out Friday early show sold out. Get tickets to the Thursday late show because if it's not sold out by the time this airs, it will be sold out. 

Andrea: Yeah, for sure. Amazing. That's gonna be super fun. You said it's in Columbus, 

Gerry: Columbus, Ohio, at the Funny Bone.

Andrea: I love it. It's a good club. Um, I am going to be at the very end of the month in Kansas City and nsa, Missouri, so check those tickets out. It's going to be super, super fun. And guys, my book comes out on Cinco de Mayo on May 5th. I am so excited. It is something, um, I have been working on for years and years and years and years, and so I'm very, very excited.

Um, that it is finally happening. It's called, they never taught us that. So if you have not yet ordered your copy, please do. Um, and also if you are local to the Midwest and you need professional development points [00:29:00] for this summer, I'm also going to be hosting a conference. Um, and it is going to be the Teacher Talk Sycamore Summit.

And you can go to my website, educator andrea.com to see some details about that. Um, it's gonna be very fun. We're gonna do mimosas in the morning and we're gonna have like continuing education credits that are offered. So imagine that. Imagine like being at professional development, hanging out with me and other cool people and also.

Getting drinks. So it's, 

Gerry: I might pull up for the mimosas. 

Andrea: Uh, you, you should. It's gonna be a good time. 

Gerry: I'm, I'm gonna pull up with you and a bunch of, a bunch of Midwest teachers. 

Andrea: It's gonna be, yeah. So, so great. Yeah. So, uh, check that out. Like I said, it's on educator andrea.com. Um, and if you guys have thoughts about what we talked about today, you can contact us, andrea@humancontent.com, or you can contact me at Educator Andrea.

Um, and you can contact the whole Human Content Podcast family on Instagram at TikTok at Human Content Pods. And thank you so much to those of you guys who have left comments and shared the pod and given great [00:30:00] feedback. We really appreciate it. Um, and if you haven't done that yet, you need to hop on that, get it done.

Um, and if you wanna check out the full video episodes, they are up every week on YouTube at Educator. Andrea, thank you so much for listening. I'm your host, Andrea Forche. 

Gerry: I'm Gerry Patoka, 

Andrea: and our executive producers are Andrea Forche, Aron Korney, Rob Goldman and Shanti Brook. Our editor is Andrew Sims.

Our engineer is Jason Pizzo. Our music is by Omer Ben-Zvi. And to learn more about how to survive the classroom's program disclaimer and ethics policy and submission verification and licensing terms, you can go to podcaster andrea.com. How to survive the classroom is a human content production.

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